** [[spoiler:Lyndon is easily convinced by Katie to climb over the railing of a dam to prove his belief in the Everett interpretation/many worlds theory that in some universes he lives and goes back to work in Amaya, and in others he If you were gonna cut it down to two hours, you’d have to lose an enormous number of the conversations and exchanges the characters have. At the psychiatrist’s office, Lily explains her history, starting with her past drug use, which seems to be extensive, and her closeness with her family, which she says is lacking. I was also the one he’d test things out on and be like, “Do you understand this? I used to resist it and go, “No, no, what I’m trying to say is this.” Then I realized that’s almost in opposition to what stories are, and that half of the story is what the viewer brings to the story. I’m not trying to be disparaging to film; I love film. Another theatrical one is deus ex machina. She seems to be gender-nonconforming and I dig it. I just feel so lucky to be able to work with them. Oscar Beat: Best Director Predictions — Will Fincher Finally Win? There are people out there who achieve extraordinary things in film, and nothing can change that. Was there ever a version of this idea in your head that was a feature film, or was it always this miniseries?It was always a TV show. You cast a female actor, Cailee Spaeny, to play Lyndon, who’s referred to by others with male pronouns. And I work at a slightly more muted level. During this 1-on-1 interview with Collider, actress Cailee Spaeny (who plays Lyndon, a brilliant young employee at Amaya’s secret development division) talked about what made her jump at the opportunity to be a part of Devs, how she related to Lyndon, what led to her playing a male character on the show, and her eagerness to work with Alex Garland again. Here, Forest — or, at least, one version of him — can reunite with his late wife and daughter, while Lily is free to pursue a relationship with ex-boyfriend Jamie (Jin Ha), who in the real world was murdered by Forest’s enforcer, Kenton (Zach Grenier). He was like, “Okay, so this is the quantum universe.” I kind of understood. © Copyright 2020 Rolling Stone, LLC, a subsidiary of Penske Business Media, LLC. By the very virtue of its location, it evokes Bullitt, otherwise, it is reminiscent of that motorway scene in Matrix Reloaded (obviously in a much more demure fashion – the Matrix Reloaded sequence was a stroke of cinematic genius, down to the Juno Reactor track). Cailee Spaeny is an American actress and singer. He is portrayed by Cailee Spaeny. We first hear the line “open the bruise up, and let some of the bruise blood come out to show them,” followed by some raspy breathing sounds, all while we glimpse what appears to be an indigenous camp, someone sitting by some water, and the San Francisco skyline. When Katie applies Lyndon’s source code to the current algorithm, clear images and sound suddenly emerge in the Faraday cage, the big breakthrough that can show anyone’s past and a time-limited vision of their future. You’ve just gotta make sure that you have a connection with that person. The original idea was, “How can this guy Forest show the extent of his devotion as massively as possible, given the infinite wealth of these huge tech companies, and the way they’re given to huge statements about themselves?” So the statue and all the iconography the girl creates seemed right for that. I think it’s really smart to re-tell it today. It came to me with a slight sense of surprise, I guess, and that then led to that line. And it’s how to drift between those two spaces without the whole thing falling to bits. Right from the beginning, that was the thought process. 'Devs' Star Cailee Spaeny on Why She Plays a Male Character on Alex Garland's Series, 'Possessor' Review: Brandon Cronenberg's Sci-Fi Thriller Is Wonderfully Depraved, How to Watch the DC Movies in Order (Chronologically and by Release Date), 'The Midnight Sky': Tiffany Boone on Training for Space Action, and Her Hopes for 'Hunters' Season 2, ‘Vikings’ Creator Michael Hirst on Upcoming Netflix Sequel Series ‘Vikings: Valhalla’ and What It’s About, Steven Strait on ‘The Expanse’ Season 5's Creative Risks and Why Season 6 Is a Satisfying Place to End the Series, Oscar Beat: Best Picture Predictions — The Wildest Oscar Season Ever. Add message | Report. I’m in love with the idea of that.” And she was like, “Just keep waiting it out.” And then, one month later, I was in Australia filming my first project. When the Devs system first starts working, Stewart and Lyndon use it to see Christ on the cross. WARNING: The following contains spoilers for Devs, now streaming on FX on Hulu. I felt like I was in an acting course, every day for six months. I just feel so lucky to have opportunities like this. I know Forrest said not to, but in a later episode Allison Pills character said she did in fact inject it into devs. If you go back in history, witches are just women who are persecuted for being independent and having their own ideas. He just said, “I want you to play a guy.” And I said, “Okay.” So, I went around and hung out in coffee shops and thought about physicality, but at the end of the day, there’s not really much that’s inherently different, between men and women. I wondered that too. What he is forced to accept in the end is that there will be versions of him that can experience that, but also versions that will not experience that. He’s good at what he does, and he’s found his community and family in his work. I just let the gender thing go. I love seeing two men, who aren’t even really like father and son. The aggressive behavior that you find in men, you can find in women. Are you game for whatever that might end up being? The miniseries’ finale premiered today. It began by starting to look for a boy, and just feeling that something wasn’t right. Growing up she spent a large amount of time in the Springfield Little Theatre, where she participated in many plays. I thought Lyndon was around 16 year old and an androgynous boy/girl. Miya Mizuno/FX. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. Let’s see how it all comes to an end! 290 - 'The Lord of the Rings' and 'The Hobbit' Trilogies. This is his first on screen thing, ever. to lead something like that. It’s so cool. Why did you want so many things made of gold in and around the Devs building?The idea was all about trying to make the science-heart of the story as beautiful and weird and kind of poetic as possible. When did the idea occur to you that the true title, Deus, would make this a pairing with Ex Machina?You’ve already made the Chekhov’s Gun allusion. When images from the past produced by Devs were grainy, Lyndon decided to fix it. 13 - Schony Lights a Fire Jim Schoenfeld looked at the calendar and then the newspapers, the fiery redhead had just been hired by … It was as much to do with physiology as anything. They can score a love scene between Lily and Jamie, and they can score someone getting suffocated to death. As … He cracks the code. Devs has precisely one blockbusting scene (the motorway sequence with Lily and Kenton). The start of episode 7 of Devsis perhaps the strangest yet. Lyndon’s a boy. It was written as a critique of the backpacking scene, and lots of people read it as a celebration of that scene. I believe it was Chekhov who said that if you put a floating gold cube in your first episode, it has to crash to the ground by the eighth.I remember Chekhov saying that very well, how right he was [laughs]! Cailee Spaeny, Actress: On the Basis of Sex. I love that scene where Lyndon goes to Stewart, and Stewart tries to convince him to let it go, but Lyndon is only seeing one thing and has only one goal in mind because this is his whole world. What was their genesis?That’s a really good example of the way I work, actually. You wouldn’t be able to hold on a shot as long as I wanted to, to sustain a cue as long. He’s one of those people, where I’m like, “Anything you want, let’s go. I was doing small town theater, I was writing music, I was doing local commercials about RVs. It’s like the big statue; it half made me laugh or smile, but it was built into the intention of the piece. He took a little notepad and he drew pictures. We then see Lily and Jamie waking up from their ni… The one thing we knew, and agreed on very early, wasn’t going to end up happening is that they would write a bunch of cues for the first episode, and we would recycle and repurpose them through the eight episodes. She made her acting debut with 2016 short film Counting to 1000 as Erica. It was a whirlwind of a process, and we’ve got some exciting things that are coming in that movie, that I think are gonna be cool homages. He is terse, dry and dangerous and the head of security at Amaya. I wrote this book called The Beach, about backpackers in Thailand. I just let the gender thing go. You go on this journey from the normal streets of San Francisco into this strange, twilight, gold, womb-space. The common thread of the latter includes parents doing everything in their power to save their child. He trusted us with these characters and believed in us. It could be the best thing, ever, but the director, the person leading it, the captain of the ship has to be right. Not a reference to Lyndon but to Lyndon's contirbution. The wild finale of Alex Garland's sci-fi series "Devs" managed to do the impossible and reveal the full capabilities for the mysterious super computer. The wild finale of Alex Garland's sci-fi series "Devs" managed to do the impossible and reveal the full capabilities for the mysterious super computer. She also played the lead role as The Cashier on the drama film The Shoes. And we talked about the slightly cult-y, devotional vibe within the company. But my instincts are towards determinism rather than against it. What was it like to do the upcoming remake of The Craft? And then, I begged my mom to drive me to Los Angeles. I knew that it might land like a bit of an “a-ha” reveal, which is kind of why Forest, when he does say it, he slightly throws it away and says it’s a private joke — because on some level, that’s really all it is. Alison Pill in Devs. And then he’d be able to experience the unfolding of his life exactly as if the thing never happened. So the physical environment needed to reflect that. It means Devs was never about predicting past or future, all Forest ever wanted to achieve was to visualize a portion of the past and create an "Import" function. We talked about some of the motifs, like repetition. It wouldn’t just tell you what happened during the Second World War. It’s just there. So this was the deus bit of the deus ex machina. SPAENY: Oh, my god, yes! That’s something that I’ve learned, the little time that I’ve been in this industry. When that came your way, were you hesitant about being a part of a remake? Also, I think they were well-complemented by [Insects members] Bob [Locke] and Tim [Norfolk]. We were sitting around having a meeting, me and Lee and the production designers, and saying, “How are we going to light this path? By the time the title screen comes on, the opening lines are repeating at such a fast pace that it is a cacophony of sounds. He just wanted this innocent person that you fell in love with. Spaeny was born in Springfield, Missouri. Personally, I can’t imagine how to do it as film. The wild finale of Alex Garland's sci-fi series "Devs" managed to do the impossible and reveal the full capabilities for the mysterious super computer. Lyndon, still looking for a way back into Devs, for some reason suggests this dam as a chatting spot with Katie. I hope she gets more screen time and development, same goes for the rest of those working at devs. I think it’s great. But the tale concludes with both finding themselves inside the machine itself, living in an alternate reality where none of the show’s events happened. You cast a female actor, Cailee Spaeny, to play Lyndon, who’s referred to by others with male pronouns. Back at the Devs lab, Lyndon’s trailblazing work only gets him fired because it is at odds with Forest’s deterministic De Broglie-Bohm theories. That’s a bit like Chekhov’s Gun. Neil Alexander Lyndon (born Neil Alexander Barnacle; September 12, 1946) is a British journalist and writer. Kenton is one of the main characters in Devs. We had a young female director (Zoe Lister-Jones), who wrote that project, which was also cool. What did you tell the team that you wanted Devs to sound like?We start talking about it and working on it even before preproduction starts. So he has to accept a different version. You cast a female actor, Cailee Spaeny, to play Lyndon, who’s referred to by others with male pronouns. I’m definitely hesitant, sometimes, about remakes. Looking for clarity, we turned to the woman who runs the Devs operation, Katie, played […] The tree lamps in the forest were particularly spooky. Tales of experiments gone wrong are a staple of science fiction, filled with depictions of scientists flexing their abilities and resources for personal reasons. * CrossCastRole: Lyndon is played by the female Cailee Spaeny, but referred to as a male. I thought she was a cute dude at first and then I realize, no, she’s a cute dudette! She was referring to how their Devs system is a God within itself but only on Lyndon's priciple. Does this dialogue make any sense? His whole life is in this job. She is a theme park fanatic, which has lead to covering various land and ride openings, and a huge music fan, for which she judges life by the time before Pearl Jam and the time after. 'Devs': Every Question (and Theory) We Have for Alex Garland's Sci-Fi Series "In time you will come to regard me not only with respect and awe, but with love." And Christ knows what that would be like. From creator/writer/director/executive producer Alex Garland, the limited series Devs, which is available to stream at FX on Hulu, follows software engineer Lily Chan (Sonoya Mizuno), as she tries to investigate the ultra-secretive development division of the cutting-edge tech company that employers her, following the murder of her boyfriend (Karl Glusman). SPAENY: I watched it, and we definitely wanted to respect it, as much as possible. It’s endless. The wild finale of Alex Garland's sci-fi series "Devs" managed to do the impossible and reveal the full capabilities for the mysterious super computer. He is portrayed by Zach Grenier. » DEVS - new mystery starts 15 April 2020 @ 9pm on BBC2. People are very protective of that movie. The wild finale of Alex Garland's sci-fi series "Devs" managed to do the impossible and reveal the full capabilities for the mysterious super computer. If The Craft was about finding the individual strength to stand against your tribe, then Legacy is about standing with your tribe against the systemic injustices that threaten you all. (Photo: Raymond Liu/FX) Though much of the first season of Devs has crawled forward, its finale quickened the pace before bringing life to a screeching halt.As both Forest (Nick Offerman) and Katie (Alison Pill) waited for Lily (Sonoya Mizuno) to enter the Devs facility, we waited as well for an event of cataclysmic proportions, an event that defies big technology and major advances. It was so interesting, playing a character that’s so smart, in a lot of ways, but so naive, in other ways. I swear, there’s a group on the internet that just goes to every single post about remakes and trashes it, which I think is funny. I’m from a small town in the Midwest and I didn’t know about any of this stuff. What was that character’s gender meant to be? That’s new.” I had never done television, either. Motives range from a thirst for power to a savior complex stemming from an incident closer to home. It was this wild fantasy, as a young child, that just got a little bit more real, every day. When you start following these characters, they initially feel very emotionally closed off. It was a process, really. That really stems from my own sense about science, which is that it’s often presented as something that is dry and arrogant and boring. I’ll never get bored and it’ll never be hard to find people to do something with. After you do material that’s as thought-provoking and challenging as Devs, is it hard to then find the next thing interests you because it raises the bar so much? There’s just one world, which means he can recreate his daughter exactly as she was, and rejoin his life exactly as it was without the car crash happening. We drove 25 hours and slept in random family’s houses, that we barely knew, for four months, in one room on cots and on air mattresses. People like to hate on them, but it’s the stories we keep re-telling, for a reason. They’re very good at delicacy and beauty and melody, and other times, they’re good at just disturbing the fuck out of you. ... gender issues don't really matter! And to be a part of something that’s so loved, who wouldn’t wanna do it? She has this look of slight confusion and wonder, and she’s cupping her hands. Loving it Edit: a word Collider: When Devs came your way, what did you find most appealing about it? What do you see as the practical application for the machine, beyond having the world’s greatest high-definition television that can show you any moment from history?That in itself would be a huge practical consideration. The second episode of Devs may have clued fans into the big coding project the tech company, Amaya, is working on. In effect, what he’d be able to do is rejoin that timeline, but not make the phone call to his wife and not, therefore, be the cause of the car crash. I’m sure there’s some editor who would stick his or her hand up and say, “I know how to do it,” but it was always conceived as a TV show. Cailee Spaeny is an American actress and singer. They’re just generations that have these differences, but at the core, they’re best friends, at the end of the day. Every day, for six months, as a cast, we were like, “Can you believe that we’re doing this? Is there something in particular you would point to that could only be told in the TV version of this story?Almost everything. It’s a cult classic. I feel that, too. If Ex Machina is about a man who is trying to act as if he’s God via technology and science, I thought there’s a companion story, which is about people not trying to act as if they’re God, but trying to create God. There was a particular quality of youth that I was hunting for, and it just occurred to me at a certain point, “What if I cast a young woman to play this boy?” I discussed that with the casting director, Carmen Cuba, and she said, “You should meet this actress, Cailee Spaeny.” And as she walked through the door, I thought, “Yeah, that’s him. I’m so honored. I feel like that’s such a fun story to re-tell now, today. It’s the first time I’ve ever led anything. He’s very creative. Growing up she spent a large amount of time in the Springfield Little Theatre, where she participated in many plays. In all other mentions of Lyndon he is referred to as male (at the beginning even explicitly stating he is male, although being played by … Growing up she spent a large amount of time in the Springfield Little Theatre, where she participated in many plays. You don’t see that a lot. It just seemed perfect. When you’re this young, you feel like you’ve seen everything, but they’re worlds ahead of you. Meanwhile, Lyndon has just made a huge discovery at Devs, which we don’t yet know about, and gleefully embraces Stewart. I thought about it a lot, before we start started filming, but once we started filming, I was just playing a character who’s a prodigy. When you’re doing a show for six months, you’re confused as to what’s you and what’s the character, but I thought Lyndon was such an inspiring character to play. Some of those cues really stuck with me, like when Kenton shoves Jamie into the bathroom at the end of the fourth episode.One of the things about Geoff and Ben is they’ve got this very, very wide palette. There were a lot of nos and a lot of rejection, but I was young. My hunch is that the thing we call free will is not what we think of it. The cast is inclusive and diverse! There’s always gonna be an interesting person out there that I wanna make art with. So even though he believes in determinism, Forest was going to be able to craft a version of reality that was exactly the same except for the car crash, and go there?That’s exactly right. Also, was the computer always using Lyndon’s formula? Forest’s line about how life is like pictures on a screen felt like a comment on how much time and emotion we invest in watching television and movies like this.That was an idea that, for me, floated out of it. It was a wild ride, but I felt so honored to be a part of it, working with people, like Nick Offerman, Alison Pill and Stephen Henderson. When the Devs system first starts working, Stewart and Lyndon use it to see Christ on the cross. The Second Coming In typical Devs fashion, episode 8 … All of that would be pretty remarkable, let alone the ability to look into the future. I wanna be working with a group of people on one thing. Lol. The 85 Best Movies on Netflix Right Now (December 2020), What That ‘Mandalorian’ Season 2 Finale Post-Credits Scene Could Mean for Season 3, The Top 10 Unintentionally Funny Movie Moments of 2020, Heather Graham on Indie Thriller 'Wander,' 'The Stand,' and Working with Paul Thomas Anderson, 'The Flight Attendant' Executive Producer on the Final Episode, and Whether We Can Expect a Season 2, 'Wonder Woman 1984' Is the Scariest Body Horror Movie of 2020. I don’t care. 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